Letter: 'Over his head'

Terry Wimberley, Bonita Springs

'Over his head'

A truism of life is that one should be aware not only of what you know but also of what you don't know.

This truism has been largely lost on our community organizer president who has been in way over his head economically, militarily and politically, precisely because he is oblivious to his own ignorance regarding these matters.

He also illustrates the extent to which he is in over his head theologically. In the same week where the Catholic Church is challenging the administration's efforts to impose health-care requirements involving contraception and abortion upon Catholic institutions, he becomes our Christian "apostle-in-chief," chiding the rich for failing to follow the scriptural directive from Luke: "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required."

He does so as a scriptural rationale for the "wealthy" to be willing to take on higher taxes. Of course what he misses is that the scripture is a call to personal stewardship, tithing and giving. It calls for voluntary acts of generosity and charity on behalf of individuals, not mandatory contributions to the government coffers on behalf of classes of individuals.

Mr. President, here's a news flash for you. Tithing, philanthropy and charitable giving are not synonymous with the federal government taking money from us, whether we like it or not. The former is called "giving" and what you have in mind is called "coercion" and "theft."

Perhaps you should stick to what you know best (community organizing) and leave governing and Christian guidance to those who actually know what they are talking about.

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eyewash writes:

You are welcome to insult the intelligence of the T-Party, but the rest of us are well aware of the track record of those you support, Republicans. They naysay government and get in office and set about proving they are right by mismanaging it.

That is what happened with 3 republicans in office prior to the great depression, Ronald Reagan, and now the second economic collapse delivered by a Republican President and Congress.

After each economic bull in a china closet event caused by Republicans a Democrat comes into office for disaster management and clean up ie., FDR, Bill Clinton and now Barack Obama.

Anyone can plainly see the sequence of the disaster and righting of the ship by looking at the Bikini Graph and pulling their head out of their rectum long enough to hear recent news.
http://tinyurl.com/3hwbamg

Nina6520 writes:

You make excellent points, Leftish. Gotta tell ya though, it's a bull in a china shop, not a closet.

Just sayin'.

American_by_Choice writes:

Hysterical!

Imagine an ignorance so deep that it provides for the comparison of the greatest period of prosperity, with the largest consistent rates of economic growth, with the obligatory highest rates of sustained employment in human history, with the worst economy; representing years of econimic stagnation and unemployment levels not seen in 70 years...

Literally touting the worst economy in 70 years, as the best.

I mean it's delusion of the clinical variety.

The Pelosi-Reid-Obarry deficits are exponentially larger that the sum of Reagan's entire budget COMBINED with the hysterically touted 'reagan-deficit'.

But that such madness should follow a letter which simply points out the undeniable rejection of philanthropy by socialists; touting the man that strip charitable donations of the means to be deducted from ones tax bill as one who truly understands and respects the divine admonishment to give freely... Well THAT is just creepy.

Feels fairly dangerous to me. Very Nazi-esque.

A populism so bereft of any sense of truth as to represent a clear and present danger to freedom itself.

These people, based upon their public statements are either ignorant or deranged... OR they're intentionally taking action to deceive their neighbor, as a means to influence him through his ignorance of their fraudulent intentions.

Sure sounds like a great group to follow... After all, what's the worst that can happen?

pmz writes:

President Bush, like Captain Franceso Schettino, appeared to be nearly clueless as to how the shoal coast got so near the bottom of his ship of state. They both abandoned ship and hoped for the best. This is where Bush was much luckier than Captain Schettino. In Bush's case another Captain took over his post and expertly guided the boat back to safe waters then to dry dock for repairs.

Now that our boat floats again we can cruise on to success.

eyewash writes:

in response to Nina6520:

You make excellent points, Leftish. Gotta tell ya though, it's a bull in a china shop, not a closet.

Just sayin'.

I stand corrected.

Pragmatic1 writes:

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American_by_Choice writes:

in response to pmz:

President Bush, like Captain Franceso Schettino, appeared to be nearly clueless as to how the shoal coast got so near the bottom of his ship of state. They both abandoned ship and hoped for the best. This is where Bush was much luckier than Captain Schettino. In Bush's case another Captain took over his post and expertly guided the boat back to safe waters then to dry dock for repairs.

Now that our boat floats again we can cruise on to success.

Let's have some fun with this one kids...

Watch'er dance...

Gilligan, How did Bush's Ship of State 'get to the bottom'?

Understand, that I hear you saying that you feel VERY STRONGLY that you are in possession of SPECIFIC knowledge of SPECIFIC Bush policy which sank the Bush-Ship of State...

PuhLEAZZZZE... Share that knowledge with us.

(Enjoy kids... But what EVER you do... IF Gilligan should actually advance something specific: DO NOT do the math. You'll pee your pants laughing. So if you can't resist... "GO" FIRST!)

pmz writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

Let's have some fun with this one kids...

Watch'er dance...

Gilligan, How did Bush's Ship of State 'get to the bottom'?

Understand, that I hear you saying that you feel VERY STRONGLY that you are in possession of SPECIFIC knowledge of SPECIFIC Bush policy which sank the Bush-Ship of State...

PuhLEAZZZZE... Share that knowledge with us.

(Enjoy kids... But what EVER you do... IF Gilligan should actually advance something specific: DO NOT do the math. You'll pee your pants laughing. So if you can't resist... "GO" FIRST!)

Two wars + wealth redistribution tax cuts on the unearned income of the wealthy + unsupervised over eating at the Wall St trough fueled by financial community lies on mortgage risks.

American_by_Choice writes:

in response to Pragmatic1:

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ROFLMNAO...

Well the market does what it does, DESPITE the debilitating effects of the anti-Capitalist policies shoved upon it by El-Ebony Duce.

Unemployment is remains upwards of 17% when the fraud set upon the calculation of such is culled from it...

Tens of millions MORE citizens are on WELFARE under El Presidente's Marxist tutelage than when he seized power through the populist uprisin' of Idiocy and GDP is FLAT as a pancake for 5 years runnin'... since Socialists came to power and began piscing money away... 25 TRILLION in just over five years.

My position is that if you can't get it done with 25 TRILLION: STEP OFF.

Anyone who runs against "The ONE!" will kick his to the curb.

Bank it.

American_by_Choice writes:

in response to pmz:

Two wars + wealth redistribution tax cuts on the unearned income of the wealthy + unsupervised over eating at the Wall St trough fueled by financial community lies on mortgage risks.

ROFLMNAO!

DANG-IT! GILLIGAN!

LOL... I didn't have a chance to GO!

(See what I mean kids...)

Gilligan directly associates the status of Federal liquidity to the health of the US Economy. The gulf of distinction between the two, in reality, are indiscernible to the lowly Socialists.

What's more, the US Executive fulfilling his prime Constitutional responsibility to provide for the common defense, is, in Gilligan's feelings, a detriment to the US Economy.

That the Executive encourages Congress to promote the General welfare, by reducing the liabilities of Taxation and Regulation to all , promoting economic freedom, THIS is a threat to the Economy, as far as Gilligan feels.

That's because despite Gilligan claiming to be a 1% retiree, hung large with a massive pension... Reality requires that such a desperation, resulting in the delusional notion that deficits of 150 Billion KILLED the Economy... while simultaneously claiming that DEFICITS OF 1500 BILLION are SAVING THE ECONOMY, proves that Gilligan's means are starkly 'limited'; with her life being dependent wholly upon that Government.

Meaning: The Government in Gilligan's world... IS THE ECONOMY!

Now to be sure, some folks fall short, and for whatever reason, they end up being dependent upon the government... But unlike Gilligan, they don't try to feel better about their failure by making their unenviable circumstances seem honorable, worthy of consideration or otherwise credible.

See THE SOLUTION...

pmz writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

ROFLMNAO...

Well the market does what it does, DESPITE the debilitating effects of the anti-Capitalist policies shoved upon it by El-Ebony Duce.

Unemployment is remains upwards of 17% when the fraud set upon the calculation of such is culled from it...

Tens of millions MORE citizens are on WELFARE under El Presidente's Marxist tutelage than when he seized power through the populist uprisin' of Idiocy and GDP is FLAT as a pancake for 5 years runnin'... since Socialists came to power and began piscing money away... 25 TRILLION in just over five years.

My position is that if you can't get it done with 25 TRILLION: STEP OFF.

Anyone who runs against "The ONE!" will kick his to the curb.

Bank it.

I have to admire your creativity when making up numbers.

Question. Why did you stop where you did?

Why not 150% unemployment and a googol of debt?

American_by_Choice writes:

OH! Ya did GREAT Lil' Buddy.

You're truly the Hallmark of Contributors.

American_by_Choice writes:

in response to pmz:

I have to admire your creativity when making up numbers.

Question. Why did you stop where you did?

Why not 150% unemployment and a googol of debt?

ROFL... Isn't that adorable?

The coolest part is that we can't be too far away from her clucking on about how her opposition is prone to circular reasoning.

FTR: I've literally spent DAYS trying to educate Gilligan on the nature of statistics and how such are worthless except where on fully understands the specifics of the information from which the stats are culled.

Not the least of the issues of those mind-numbing discussions was the distinction between the distinct matrices common to C3 and C6 calculations.

Gilligan is simply not interested in the reality of the 6 table, as such does not suit her Dependency perspective.

Her problem is that the ABSOLUTE, MOST LUDICROUSLY OPTIMISTIC calculation which El Presidente feels he can sell, is one which claims that his policies have produced 8.5% unemployment! Which is only 1% below Obarry's AVERAGE standard of 9.5%.

This distinct from his predecessor who averaged HALF of that 4.5% with C6 tables being just marginally higher, averaging 5.3%.

Pragmatic1 writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

ROFLMNAO...

Well the market does what it does, DESPITE the debilitating effects of the anti-Capitalist policies shoved upon it by El-Ebony Duce.

Unemployment is remains upwards of 17% when the fraud set upon the calculation of such is culled from it...

Tens of millions MORE citizens are on WELFARE under El Presidente's Marxist tutelage than when he seized power through the populist uprisin' of Idiocy and GDP is FLAT as a pancake for 5 years runnin'... since Socialists came to power and began piscing money away... 25 TRILLION in just over five years.

My position is that if you can't get it done with 25 TRILLION: STEP OFF.

Anyone who runs against "The ONE!" will kick his to the curb.

Bank it.

Donavin, Donavin, Donavin.

You must be a lot of fun at parties.

pmz writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

ROFL... Isn't that adorable?

The coolest part is that we can't be too far away from her clucking on about how her opposition is prone to circular reasoning.

FTR: I've literally spent DAYS trying to educate Gilligan on the nature of statistics and how such are worthless except where on fully understands the specifics of the information from which the stats are culled.

Not the least of the issues of those mind-numbing discussions was the distinction between the distinct matrices common to C3 and C6 calculations.

Gilligan is simply not interested in the reality of the 6 table, as such does not suit her Dependency perspective.

Her problem is that the ABSOLUTE, MOST LUDICROUSLY OPTIMISTIC calculation which El Presidente feels he can sell, is one which claims that his policies have produced 8.5% unemployment! Which is only 1% below Obarry's AVERAGE standard of 9.5%.

This distinct from his predecessor who averaged HALF of that 4.5% with C6 tables being just marginally higher, averaging 5.3%.

Clearly your hero Rush collects brains as did native Americans collect scalps. I can see yours, right there, in front...the tiny one there on the left.

Not one to be proud of, but Rush turns none down.

The down side of attaching your nose so intimately to his nether regions is that, as he exits stage right, so must you.

Another victory for the democracy that took the American people several wars and over a 150 years to achieve.

pmz writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

ROFLMNAO!

DANG-IT! GILLIGAN!

LOL... I didn't have a chance to GO!

(See what I mean kids...)

Gilligan directly associates the status of Federal liquidity to the health of the US Economy. The gulf of distinction between the two, in reality, are indiscernible to the lowly Socialists.

What's more, the US Executive fulfilling his prime Constitutional responsibility to provide for the common defense, is, in Gilligan's feelings, a detriment to the US Economy.

That the Executive encourages Congress to promote the General welfare, by reducing the liabilities of Taxation and Regulation to all , promoting economic freedom, THIS is a threat to the Economy, as far as Gilligan feels.

That's because despite Gilligan claiming to be a 1% retiree, hung large with a massive pension... Reality requires that such a desperation, resulting in the delusional notion that deficits of 150 Billion KILLED the Economy... while simultaneously claiming that DEFICITS OF 1500 BILLION are SAVING THE ECONOMY, proves that Gilligan's means are starkly 'limited'; with her life being dependent wholly upon that Government.

Meaning: The Government in Gilligan's world... IS THE ECONOMY!

Now to be sure, some folks fall short, and for whatever reason, they end up being dependent upon the government... But unlike Gilligan, they don't try to feel better about their failure by making their unenviable circumstances seem honorable, worthy of consideration or otherwise credible.

See THE SOLUTION...

Are you saying that if it wasn't for President Bush we'd now be under the rule of Saddam Hussein and/or Osama bin Laden?

I'm thinking that that's a stretch even for your imagination.

The real world is a much duller place than your imaginary world but, unfortunately for you, the only place where real problems dwell and can be solved.

I'm pretty sure that Rush won't tell you that. He likes you right where you are.

American_by_Choice writes:

LOL...
Whatta great letter and so on the nose.

But to have THAT followed by an Occupier clucking on about Reagan, framing the unprecedented prosperity which his leadership and the policies he initiated in terms such as 'depression', even as the modern FDR extends a recession into its fifth year, is absolutely precious.

We are talking ignorance induced delusion on a massive scale.

Understand that the oft' hysterically lamented Reagan-deficits are so fractional in comparison to the deficits of the Pelosi-Reid-Obarry deficits as to be indiscernible.

That triumvirate of catastrophe spent more purely in deficit in one year than the sum of Reagan's largest budget and deficit combined. And the sum of just the deficit spending of the sociopaths is an order of magnitude larger the Reagan spent in the entirety of his two terms.

pmz writes:

in response to American_by_Choice:

LOL...
Whatta great letter and so on the nose.

But to have THAT followed by an Occupier clucking on about Reagan, framing the unprecedented prosperity which his leadership and the policies he initiated in terms such as 'depression', even as the modern FDR extends a recession into its fifth year, is absolutely precious.

We are talking ignorance induced delusion on a massive scale.

Understand that the oft' hysterically lamented Reagan-deficits are so fractional in comparison to the deficits of the Pelosi-Reid-Obarry deficits as to be indiscernible.

That triumvirate of catastrophe spent more purely in deficit in one year than the sum of Reagan's largest budget and deficit combined. And the sum of just the deficit spending of the sociopaths is an order of magnitude larger the Reagan spent in the entirety of his two terms.

Compare Reagan's economic good fortune with Clinton's. If President Bush had just kept his hands off of the controls we might be debt free by now. But he didn't. He believed in Reagan's voodoo economics and had to try to show us what they could do.

When the walls came tumbling down, he had planned to be out of town but didn't quite make it, a miscalculation that republicans have been trying to obscure for Obama's whole first term. For anyone paying attention it is obvious that Bush owes Obama big time for slowing the fall of the crumbling walls and mitigating a lot of potential damage.

A lesser President would not have been able to pull off that miracle.

Pragmatic1 writes:

By the way, wasn't Jesus also a Community Organizer at one time?

Although some people would not like to admit it, I think President Obama can add a few things to his resume since then.

Amos writes:

Seriously, If you believe that Jesus was a community organizer than you are an even bigger fool than the President when he thinks he can school us on Christian requirements for stewardship. You too are in "over your head" I fear.

eyewash writes:

in response to Amos:

Seriously, If you believe that Jesus was a community organizer than you are an even bigger fool than the President when he thinks he can school us on Christian requirements for stewardship. You too are in "over your head" I fear.

You should put the word "believe" in all caps.

Here is why:

You exist on a plain where your reasoning is based on sanctity. You have beliefs that are held regardless of the contrary indicators of science, math or logic. In other words you believe what you believe to be true because you believe it, a kind of decree and facts that disagree are not accepted. This is how the new conservatives believe and some new liberals believe. Only the folks in the middle are open to facts and change their beliefs based on science, math and logic. That is why both left and right extremes should be ignored. They will drive right over the cliff (murder their own children) because of the sanctity of their beliefs.

Neither extreme admits this. How can they? Their beliefs are sacred. The positions and persons of their opponents are evil.

This analysis is from John Haigt's study of political psychology.

American_by_Choice writes:

in response to pmz:

Compare Reagan's economic good fortune with Clinton's. If President Bush had just kept his hands off of the controls we might be debt free by now. But he didn't. He believed in Reagan's voodoo economics and had to try to show us what they could do.

When the walls came tumbling down, he had planned to be out of town but didn't quite make it, a miscalculation that republicans have been trying to obscure for Obama's whole first term. For anyone paying attention it is obvious that Bush owes Obama big time for slowing the fall of the crumbling walls and mitigating a lot of potential damage.

A lesser President would not have been able to pull off that miracle.

ROFLMNAO!

Concession noted and accepted.

But I adore these little attempts to revise history on the fly.

nstinks writes:

in response to Nina6520:

You make excellent points, Leftish. Gotta tell ya though, it's a bull in a china shop, not a closet.

Just sayin'.

So Nina.........you believe Obama has a direct line of communication with Jesus?

Let's hear about it on the latest Naples Tea Party Blog.

http://www.naplesnews.com/blogs/naple...

The2012RevolutionHasBegun writes:

in response to eyewash:

You are welcome to insult the intelligence of the T-Party, but the rest of us are well aware of the track record of those you support, Republicans. They naysay government and get in office and set about proving they are right by mismanaging it.

That is what happened with 3 republicans in office prior to the great depression, Ronald Reagan, and now the second economic collapse delivered by a Republican President and Congress.

After each economic bull in a china closet event caused by Republicans a Democrat comes into office for disaster management and clean up ie., FDR, Bill Clinton and now Barack Obama.

Anyone can plainly see the sequence of the disaster and righting of the ship by looking at the Bikini Graph and pulling their head out of their rectum long enough to hear recent news.
http://tinyurl.com/3hwbamg

More revisionist history from the liberal left because the facts are too politically inconvenient and hinder their rhetoric.

The legislative history that created the problems this country continues to suffer through is well-documented, going back more than 30 years through five presidential administrations and sixteen Congresses. The major players from both sides of the aisle responsible for much of that legislation is a veritable "Who's Who" of American politics.

To cast blame solely on one person, or one group, or one political party is naive and dishonest in the extreme.

The presidents that you cited in your example were successful in spite of their efforts and their economic policies, not because of them. FDR is credited with rescuing this country from the Great Depression, when in reality it was our entrance into World War II that saved us.

Clinton is credited with a booming economy, and with balancing the budget and creating a surplus. In reality, it was his decision to continue economic policies put into place by Reagan and George H.W. Bush that led to the economic growth, and it was a Republican-led Congress that dragged him kicking and screaming to that result until he realized how good it would make him look and quit fighting it.

Similarly, Obama has continued many economic policies initiated by George W. Bush that have contributed significantly to the leveling out of our economy.

In every case, the sitting president is credited with results that they may or may not have actually had much to do with. Right or wrong, such is the nature of occupying the Oval Office.

Anyone who is capable of impartial, rational, and intelligent thought can plainly see the sequence of disaster created by the divisive partisan politics that continue to plague this country, perpetuated by people who believe as you do.

The big picture, taking all facts into account, tells a much different and much more realistic story than the one you are spinning.

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